Prabhupada Racism, Sexism, and Homophobia (Quotes) July 14, 2017 By: gaurarader 13 Prabhupada on Racism Srimad Bhagavatam, 1.11.36, 1964 Edition ‒ The cupid, therefore, throws his arrow upon the living being to become mad after his opposite sex never mind whether the party is actually beautiful or not. Such action of the cupid is going on even on the negroes and beastly societies who are all ugly looking in the estimation of the civilized nations. Thus cupid’s influence is exerted even in the ugliest forms (of living being) and-what to speak about the most perfectional stage of personal beauties. Room Conversation, Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced, February 14, 1977, Mayapura ‒ Prabhupada: Sudra is to be controlled only. They are never given to be freedom. Just like in America. The blacks were slaves. They were under control. And since you have given them equal rights they are disturbing, most disturbing, always creating a fearful situation, uncultured and drunkards. What training they have got? They have got equal right. That is best, to keep them under control as slaves but give them sufficient food, sufficient cloth, not more than that. Then they will be satisfied. Room Conversation, October 5, 1975, Mauritius ‒ Prabhupada: This is Vedic civilization: plain living, high thinking. And poor thinking, poor in thought, poor in behavior, and living with motorcar and this, that, nonsense. It is all nonsense civilization. A first-class Rolls Royce car, and who is sitting there? A third-class negro. This is going on. You’ll find these things in Europe and America. This is going on. A first-class car and a third-class negro. That’s all. Is it not? Discussion with Syamasundara dasa about John Dewey, 1976 ‒ Sudras have no brain. In America also, the whole America once belonged to the Red Indians. Why they could not improve? The land was there. Why these foreigners, the Europeans, came and improved? So sudras cannot do this. They cannot make any correction. Lecture on SB 1.16.4 Los Angeles, January 1, 1974 ‒ Prabhupada: So here, this man was cheating. Because here it is said: nrpa-linga-dharam. He was dressed like a king. Just like king is very gorgeously dressed. But his bodily feature, he was a black man. The black man means sudra. Room Conversation, January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara ‒ Ramesvara: That’s the trend, then, everywhere, because unemployment is increasing. Prabhupada: And especially in your country it will be dangerous because these blacks, if they don’t get employment, they will create havoc, these blacks. And they are not civilized. They want money, and if they don’t get money, then they will create havoc. Gargamuni: Money and liquor. Hari-sauri: Yes. If they do get money, they just buy it. Room Conversation, August 2, 1976, New Mayapur, Lucay le Male, France ‒ Prabhupada: Dravidian culture. Dravida. They are non-Aryans. Just like these Africans, they are not Aryans. Now they are mixing up with Europeans and Americans. In India, it was, one from the higher section, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, they will be fair complexion. Sudras, black. So if a brahmana becomes black, then he’s not accepted as brahmana. Kala bahu (?). And if a sudra becomes fair, then he’s to be know that he’s not pure sudra. Letter to Satsvarupa from Prabhupada, San Francisco, 9 April, 1968 ‒ Certainly we are not going to say these things about the negro people publicly; we have no distinction between black or white, or demon or demigod, but at the same time, so long as one is demon or demigod, we have to behave in the proper way. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu; He had no distinction between a tiger and a man. He was so powerful that He could convert even a tiger to dance. But so far as we are concerned, we should not imitate and go to some tiger and try to make him dance! But still, tiger is equally eligible like a man. So, you can understand that these talks are not for the public, as they have not got the ability to understand. Prabhupada on Homosexuality and Gay Marriage Lord Brahma, approaching the Lord, addressed Him thus: My Lord, please protect me from these sinful demons, who were created by me under Your order. They are infuriated by an appetite for sex and have come to attack me. It appears here that the homosexual appetite of males for each other is created in this episode of the creation of the demons by Brahma. In other words, the homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac and is not for any sane male in the ordinary course of life. (SB 3.20.26) JSD 6.5 Slaughterhouse Civilization Srila Prabhupada: The priests are after money. They are not first class; they are low-class men. This is the reason that Christianity has fallen down. The priests cannot speak straightforwardly. There is a straightforward commandment–“Thou shalt not kill.” But because people are already killing, the priests are afraid to present the commandment straightforwardly. Now they are even granting man-to-man marriage, what to speak of other things. The priests are sermonizing on this idea of man-to-man marriage. Just see how degraded they have become! Previously was there any conception like this, at least outside America? Nobody thought that a man could be married to another man. What is this? And the priests are supporting it. Do you know that? So what is their standard? 710725SB.NY Lectures And what is the tapasya? That is also… Brahmacaryena. Brahmacaryena. Brahmacaryenameans restricted sex life. Real meaning is no sex life, no sex, celibacy, completely. This is tapasya. Therefore, according to Vedic culture, the first beginning of life is brahmacari. (break) But in the brahmacari life there is no sex life. Only in the grhastha life there is sex life, married life. I was reading the other day a magazine, Watch… What is that? Watchtower. So this paper was criticizing so many immoral activities in the Christian world. And one item I was surprised to read that a Christian priest has sanctioned marriage between man to man. That was written there. I do not wish to discuss all those things, but people are degrading for want of this tapasya. People are not taught how to execute tapasyalife, tapasvi life. Simply by criticizing will not do. Practically you have to be trained in the life of tapasya. Then it will be effective. Just like we are doing. Here, in our Krsna consciousness movement, in every center, everyone, at least who are living within this temple, must get up at four o’clock to perform the aratrika. This morning I was asking somebody that if you cannot rise, then you cannot live in this temple. Because this temple is meant for tapasya, not for extravagancy. Unless you follow the life of tapasya, you cannot make progress. 740611r2.par Conversations Prabhupada: Yes. They’re after money. So they are less than sudras. That is the cause that Christianity has fallen down, that they cannot speak straightly, or otherwise… It is straight commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.” And because people are killing, they’re… Now they are give man-to-man marriage, what to speak of other things. The priests, they are sermonizing this man-to-man marriage. Just see how degraded they have become. Whether any conception… At least, outside America, nobody knows that a man can be married with another man. What is this? And they’re supporting it. You know that? 750521rc.mel Conversations Prabhupada: No. There is no question of high percentage. I said that even a small percentage, there must be some ideal men. At least people will see that here is the ideal man. Just like we are having. Because they are chanting and dancing, many outsiders are coming and they are also learning, they are also offering obeisances. And gradually they are offering their service: “Please accept me.” The example is better than precept. If you have an ideal group of men, then people will automatically learn. That is wanted. But don’t mind, I don’t find any ideal group of men. Even in the priests they are going to hospital for their drinking habit. I saw in some times before in a hospital, five thousand patients, alcoholic patients, priest. Priest should be ideal character. And they are advocating homosex. So where is the ideal character men? If the priestly class they are going to hospital for drinking habit, and they are allowing man-to-man marriage and homosexuality, then where is ideal character? 760108rc.nel Conversations Prabhupada: That they are doing. Still they are doing. Just like you said, some sprinkling water. They have no philosophy and they violate everything, what is stated there in Bible. Now you say that “Thou shall not kill;” they say, “Thou shall not murder.” They are molding. Now this homosexuality they are sanctioning, man-to-man marriage. They are sanctioning abortion. Acyutananda: Yes. Two homosexuals were married by a priest. Prabhupada: Yes. Tamala Krsna: Now they have a church where the priests are homosexuals and the attending people are homosexual. Prabhupada: Hm? Tamala Krsna: Now they have churches for homosexuals. That means the priest is a homosexual, and the persons who come are homosexuals. A special church for homosexuals. Prabhupada: Just see. Is that religion? 770428rc.bom Conversations Prabhupada: No, they are drinking. They are having homosex. They are encouraging homosexuals, giving man-to-man marriage. You know that? This is going on. Doing everything nonsense. N98:720928MW.LA conversations Prabhupada: …the injunction of the scripture, and still they say, “We do not know.” So many drunkards priest, they are going to hospital for treatment ,and they are eating, and they are getting married man to man, and still they say, “We do not know what we have done.” Just see how cheaters they are. Jayatirtha: In the last six years… Prabhupada: Hm? Jayatirtha: In the last six years in the Catholic church, 25,000 priests have left and taken up… Prabhupada: 25,000? Jayatirtha: 25,000 in six years. Prabhupada: What is that? Jayatirtha: Have left the Catholic church, priests. Prabhupada: Left. Jayatirtha: Ordained priests, they have left and gone off to marry or whatever. Especially they are concerned that they can’t marry. Catholic priests are not allowed to marry. Prabhupada: Marrying? They are marrying man to man ,what to speak of marrying. Sodomy. Jayatirtha: So that’s the alternative. Either they’re leaving or they’re marrying man to man. Prabhupada: Homosexuality. They are supporting homosexuality. So degraded, and still they say, “What we have done?” They do not know what is degradation, and they are priest. They are teaching others. They do not know what is the meaning of degradation. 740614rc.par Conversations Prabhupada: Yes. Some of our men, at least one, left our association. He thought that “This is denying the primary necessities of life.” Rayarama, Rayarama. He left for this reason, that we do not allow the bare necessities of life. Illicit sex, intoxication… He was first-class criminal on this account, but he could not give it up. Therefore he left. Devotee: Yes, I spoke with him in San Francisco, and he said, “Swamiji will not be successful because he does not allow free love in his movement.” He says, “That is why I had to leave because there was no place for me and my boyfriend.” Even he was not attracted to having a girl, but he had a boy. That boy used to be also your typist. He was from Harvard University. Prabhupada: That Neil. Devotee: Yeah, Neil. Prabhupada: Oh. Devotee: And he told me that “Swamiji will not be successful in his movement because he will not allow free love.” I just saw him in San Francisco before I went to India two and a half years ago. We were trying to get him to come back to the temple. Prabhupada: No, he cannot give up these bad habits. Pusta-krsna: You said in Geneva that no one has died from giving up cigarettes or illicit sex. So it is not so hard to do. Prabhupada: No, it is not hard. Now the Christian church is giving liberty, man to man marriage. Most unnatural. Devotee: Previously they didn’t allow divorce. The first principle was there is no question of divorce. Then so many people began leaving the Catholic Church. So then they allowed divorce. And then they did not allow abortion. So again so many people left the religion. Now they allow abortion. And now they are allowing man to man marriage. Prabhupada: Just see. Devotee: They compromise just to keep their followers. Bhagavan: It’s a matter of money. Prabhupada: And that is freedom. So Raya Ramananda left because such freedom is not allowed here. So we have to allow this freedom like the church? (laughs) Prabhupada On Hitler and Jews Room Conversation, June 17, 1976, Toronto ‒ Prabhupada: Ah, yes. So these English people, they were very expert in making propaganda. They killed Hitler by propaganda. I don’t think Hitler was so bad man. Sometimes he becomes a great hero — just like Hiranyakasipu and Kamsa or, in the modern age, Napoleon or Hitler. The activities of such men are certainly very great. (See VedaBase.net) Ah, yes. So these English people, they were very expert in making propaganda. They killed Hitler by propaganda. I don’t think Hitler was so bad man. (June 17, 1976, Toronto) No, no. Hitler knew it [the atom bomb]. . . . No, no. He knew it, everything, but he did not like to do it. He said. He said. He was gentleman. But these people are not gentlemen. He knew it perfectly well. He said that “I can smash the whole world, but I do not use that weapon.” The Germans already discovered. But out of humanity they did not use it. And all the, your American, other countries, they have stolen from German ideas. (November 20, 1975, Bombay) Therefore Hitler killed these Jews. They were financing against Germany. Otherwise he had no enmity with the Jews. . . . And they were supplying. They want interest money — “Never mind against our country.” Therefore Hitler decided, “Kill all the Jews.” (January 23, 1977, Bhuvanesvara) So on the whole, the conclusion is that the Aryans spread in Europe also, and the Americans, they also spread from Europe. So the intelligent class of human being, they belong to the Aryans, Aryan family. Just like Hitler claimed that he belonged to the Aryan family. Of course, they belonged to the Aryan families. (Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 9.3 — Melbourne, April 21, 1976) Prabhupada On Violent Krishna Conscious Theocracy Morning Walk January 21, 1976, Mayapura ‒ Prabhupada: Still, if you say, ‘You are mudha’, they become angry. Such mudhas, rascals, they are in the government service. And if you say that, ‘You are mudhas’, he becomes angry. Upadeso hi murkhanam prakopaya na santaye: If a mudha is advised nice instruction, he becomes angry. He does not take it. Payah-panam bhujanganam kevalam visa-vardhanam: If you give milk and banana to a snake, you simply increase his poison. One day he will come-(growls). You see I have given you milk and you? Yes, that is my nature. Yes. You give me milk, and I am prepared to kill you. This is mudha. We have to kill this civilization of mudhas. That is Krsna consciousness movement. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. Those who are actually human being, you have to give them Krsna. And those who are mudhas, we have to kill them. This is our business. Kill all the mudhas and give Krsna to the sane man. Yes. That will prove that you are really Krsna’s. We are not nonviolent. We are violent to the mudhas. Room Conversation February 25, 1977, Mayapura ‒ Tamala Krsna: Gradually some of the people are beginning to understand what you’re up to, Srila Prabhupada. Some of these big demons in America especially, they are beginning to understand that you are the most dangerous personality in the world to them. Prabhupada: To kill demon-crazy, LSD. (laughs) Yes, that is my mission. That is Krsna’s mission, paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam BG 4.8 , to kill all these demons, crazy demons. I have no such power; otherwise I would have killed them. Either establish Krsna conscious government or kill them- bas, finish. I would have done that, violence. Tamala Krsna: Yes, when good argument fails? Prabhupada: Kill them. Finish. Just like Parasurama did. Kill all them, twenty-one times. Morning Walk March 15, 1974, Vrndavana ‒ Prabhupada: Arcye visnau [break] when it will teach military art, with tilaka, soldiers will, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna (laughter) We want that. Marching with military band, Hare Krsna. You maintain this idea. Is it not good? Hrdayananda: Yes, Prabhupada. Prabhupada: When there will be military march of Krsna conscious soldiers. Anyone who does not believe in Krsna, Blam! (laughter) Yes. The same process as the Mohammedans did, with sword and Koran, we’ll have to do that. Do you believe in Krsna or not? No, sir. Blam! Finished. (laughter, Prabhupada laughs) What do you think, Madhudvisa Maharaja? Is that all right? Madhudvisa: Yes. Prabhupada: (laughing) What these communists can do? We can do better than them. We can kill many communists like that. (laughter) Then it will be counteraction of communist movement. And you think like that. Why you are sitting idly, no employment? Come on to the field! Take this plow! Take this bull. Go on working. Why you are sitting idly? This is Krsna consciousness movement. Nobody should be allowed to sit down and sleep. On Women Room Conversation—April 12, 1969, New York ‒ Prabhupada: So sasan ke adhikari means they should be punished. (laughs) Punished means, just like dhol, when the, I mean to say, sound is not very hard, dag-dag, if you beat it on the border, then it comes to be nice tune. Similarly, pasu, animals, if you request “My dear dog, please do not go there.” Hut! (laughter) “No, my dear dog. Hut!” This is the way. Similarly, woman. If you become lenient, then she will be troublesome. So in India still, in villages, whenever there is some quarrel between husband wife, the husband beats and she is tamed. Morning Walk, May 11, 1975, Perth, Australia ‒ Prabhupāda: Yes, that is law always. Rape means without consent, sex. Otherwise there is no rape. There was a rape case in Calcutta, and the lawyer was very intelligent. He some way or other made the woman admit, “Yes, I felt happiness.” So he was released. “Here is consent.” And that’s a fact. Because after all, sex, rape or no rape, they will feel some pleasure. So the lawyer by hook and crook made the woman agree, “Yes, I felt some pleasure.” “Now, there is consent.” So he was released. After all, it is an itching sensation. So either by force or by willingly, if there is itching, everyone feels relieved itching it. That’s a psychology. It is not that the woman do not like rape. They like sometimes. They willingly. That is the psychology. Outwardly they show some displeasure, but inwardly they do not. This is the psychology. Devotee (1): So what this law means is that anybody can rape anybody. Prabhupāda: There is no law; it is all lusty desire. All law or no law, these are all nonsense. The śāstra has… It is lusty desire, that’s all. Everyone wants to fulfill a lusty desires. So unless one is not in the modes of goodness or transcendental, everyone will like. That is the material world, rajas-tamaḥ. Rajas-tamo-bhāvaḥ kāma-lobhadayaś ca ye [SB 1.2.19]. It is all discussed in the śāstra. Just like I am hungry man. There is foodstuff. I want to eat it. So if I take by force, that is illegal, and if I pay for it, then it is legal. But I am the hungry man, I want it. This is going on. Everyone is lusty. Therefore they say “legalized prostitution.” They want it. So marriage is something legalized, that’s all. The passion and the desire is the same, either married or not married. So this Vedic law says, “Better married. Then you will be controlled.” Married life… So he will not be so lusty as without married life. So the gṛhastha life is a concession-same lusty desire under rules and regulation. That’s all. That is our higher… (?) Without married life he will commit rapes in so many ways, so better let him be satisfied with one, both the man and woman, and make progress in spiritual life. That is concession. Everyone in this material world has come with these lusty desires and greediness. Even demigods like Lord Śiva, Lord Brahmā… The Lord Brahmā became lusty after his daughter. And Lord Śiva became so mad after Mohinī–murti. So what to speak of us insignificant creatures. So lusty desire is there. That is material world. Unless one is fully Kṛṣṇa conscious, this lusty desire cannot be checked. It is not possible. Prabhupada’s Purport, Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 4.25.41 ‒ Prabhupada: In this regard, the word vikhyatam is very significant. A man is always famous for his aggression toward a beautiful woman, and such aggression is sometimes considered rape. Although rape is not legally allowed, it is a fact that a woman likes a man who is very expert at rape. SB 1.7.42, purport ‒ Women as a class are no better than boys, and therefore they have no discriminatory power like that of a man. SB 4.4.3, purport ‒ Generally, separation between husband and wife is due to womanly behavior; divorce takes place due to womanly weakness. The best course for a woman is to abide by the orders of her husband. SB 1.2.6, Montreal, August 3, 1968 ‒ Yes. So psychology… I was student of psychology in my college life. Dr. Urquhart said, I remember still, that the brain substance has been found up to 64 ounce, while brain substance of woman has been found, highest, 34 ounce. Therefore woman class (laughs) is not so intelligent as man. There is no question of competition. It is actual, scientific fact. Lecture at Harvard University, Boston, December 24, 1969 ‒ According to psychology, there is difference of brain substance. Not the brain substance equally, of equal weight, in every man’s brain. You know, you are all educated students, psychology students. In our boyhood when we were a student in psychology class, Dr. Urquhart explained this brain substance. The man has got the highest brain substance — not all — up to sixty-four ounce. And woman has got the highest up to thirty-six or thirty-four. Of course, we are not discussing that point. Our movement is a spiritual movement, Krishna consciousness. That is beyond brain. SB 1.3.21, Los Angeles, September 26, 1972 ‒ I was student of psychology, and our professor… He was a Scotman. He explained this brain substance, cerebular substance, Dr. Urquhart, that the more brain substance is there, more one becomes intelligent. And it has been found that a woman does not have more than thirty-six ounce of brain substance, whereas in man it has been found that he has got up to sixty-four ounce. Now, this is modern science. Therefore generally, generally, woman, less intelligent than man. You cannot find any big scientist, any big mathematician, any big philosopher amongst woman. That is not possible. Although in your country, you want equal status with man, freedom, but by nature you are less intelligent. What can be done? (laughter) Bhagavad-gita 4.12, Vrindavana, August 4, 1974 ‒ Svarupa Damodara: Cerebrum. Prabhupada: Yes. I was student of psychology. Our professor, Dr. Urquhart said that the brain, the biggest brain is, by practical psychology it has been tested, sixty-four ounce. And that is the highest brain substance. But for woman it is never more than thirty-six ounce. So they have tested all these practical psychologies. Bhagavad-gita 16.7, Hawaii, February 3, 1975 ‒ To understand Brahman is not the business of tiny brain. Alpha-medhasam. There are two Sanskrit words, alpa-medhasa and su-medhasa. Alpa-medhasameans having little brain substance. Physiologically, within the brain there are brain substance. It is found that the brain substance in man is found up to 64 ounce. They are very highly intellectual persons. And in woman the brain substance is not found more than 34 ounce. You’ll find, therefore, that there is no very great scientist, mathematician, philosopher, among women. You’ll never find because their brain substance cannot go. Artificially do not try to become equal with men. That is not allowed in the Vedic sastra. Na striyam svatantratam arhati. That is called sastra. You have to understand that woman is never given to be independence. Independence means just like child has to be taken care, similarly, woman has to be taken care. You cannot get your child go in the street alone. There will be danger. Similarly, according to Vedic civilization, Manu-samhita, woman should be given protection. In this way,acara, this is called acara. So the demons, they do not know. The demons, they do not know what is what, how one thing should be treated, how… They do not know. In the Western countries there is no such distinction between man and woman. But there is. Television Interview, July 9, 1975, Chicago ‒ Female Reporter: We have talked to scientists who say that the size of the brain has nothing to do with intelligence. Do you believe that? Prabhupada: I think that the scientists do not think like that. They keep the brain of a particular scientist to study. They keep the heart of a particular noble man. Why they try to study the heart and the brain if there is no difference? Nitai: Sometimes they keep the brain of a great scientist to study because they think that he is so intelligent, there must be something we can learn from studying the brain. So if they are thinking like that, then there also must be a difference between a woman’s brain and a man’s brain. Female Reporter: What they say is that there is difference, but it has nothing to do with the size. Nitai: Then why do they keep great scientists’ brain to study? Female Reporter: They keep many people’s brains to study. Nitai: Especially great scientists, that they want to see what has made this man so intelligent. Female Reporter: That’s not necessarily true. Prabhupada: Then why they study the brain? What is the purpose of studying brain unless there is difference? You study different brains. Unless you feel that there is difference between this brain and that brain, why do you study. What is the meaning of study? Female Reporter: To find differences among men. It’s not necessarily differences between men and woman. Prabhupada: I don’t say man or woman. But I say you study different brains — why? Unless you think there is some difference? Female Reporter: There is difference. Prabhupada: Yes. So if there is difference, then what is the harm if there is difference between man and woman’s brain? Female Reporter: They say there isn’t. Prabhupada: They say, but the fact we have to study. As soon as you study the construction of different brain, then you must know that there is difference, different activities. Female Reporter: In other words, you do not believe this, what they say. Prabhupada: Then why do you study different brain? Female Reporter: I don’t study them. I’m just telling you what the scientists say. Prabhupada: So scientists, the psychologist… As I was a student of psychology and our professor, a big man, Dr. W. S. Urquhart, he said that “By studying the brains of man and woman, we have found the highest brain substance found in man, sixty-four ounce by weight.” You may deny. This is the statement of a big psychologist. You can shake your head, but this is the scientific words by big psychologist. You can note down his name, Dr. W.S. Urquhart, professor of psychology in the Scottish Churches College in 1918-20. Female Reporter: Oh, dear, no wonder. 1918-1920, that means… O.K. I see now what you’re thinking about. That was many, many years ago. Prabhupada: So can you give any proof since then that the woman’s… In 1920… She does not take it? Nitai: She does not take it. Somehow they think that the brain is no longer small. If it was small, then, it is not small today. Prabhupada: But where is the proof… Female Reporter: You do not believe that there has been advancement of science since 1920? Nitai: Well, if the brain has been ascertained as being half the size then why should it change by now? Should it change? Female Reporter: Well, do you think that the Romans weren’t as tall as men are today? Nitai: No, but the… But then, within fifty years there is not going to be any change in the brain. Female Reporter: Not in the 1900’s. Why do you use the technology that you use? You didn’t have cars in those days, this television. Things have changed since 1920. Prabhupada: So what change has become? Can you give any evidence that woman is more powerful in brain than the man during these years? Can you give any evidence? Female Reporter: No, what I’m saying is that… Prabhupada: Now, can you give any evidence that woman has become more powerful than the man during these fifty years? Female Reporter: Yes. Prabhupada: What is that? Give me some tacit example. Female Reporter: That she and I wouldn’t be here if women weren’t more powerful than they were fifty years ago. Harikesa: Now they are talking louder. (laughter) Female Reporter: Than you. Thank you. (woman leaves) Harikesa: The scientists have the theory that the brain, the intelligence is measured by creases in the brain, creases, not by size. Prabhupada: Not size, but what is the proof that the brain of woman has increased? Where is the proof? Harikesa: They think because the ego has increased, the brain has also increased. Prabhupada: Oh, that’s nice. (laughter) That’s nice. (laughing) So to become angry means defeat. If two persons are in argument the man, the one party, he becomes angry, that means he is defeated. Why one should become angry? It is the argument, logic. They should continue. And to become angry and to go away, that means defeat. Press Conference, July 9, 1975, Chicago ‒ Reporter (3): (a woman) Where… Do women fit into this social structure? You keep referring to man. Prabhupada: Woman is not equally intelligent as a man. Reporter (3): Equal in intelligence? Prabhupada: Not equal intelligence. In the psychology, practical psychology, they have found that the man’s brain has been found up to sixty-four ounce, woman… Sixty-four ounce, man’s brain. And woman’s brain has been found, thirty-six ounce. So therefore woman is not equally intelligent like man. Geocentric Solar System Mayapura, February 4, 1976 ‒ Prabhupada: Then, in the morning, it rises reddish. So why it does not look reddish always if it is fixed? Harikesa: Well, the material scientists say it’s because of the atmospheric condition. It refracts the light in such a way that it becomes reddish. That’s what they say. Because it’s thicker atmosphere. You have to look through more atmos… Prabhupada: Then how it comes so high? After few hours it goes so high. Harikesa: Well, there is less atmosphere to look through. Why it goes up there? Prabhupada: So that means move? Harikesa: No, no. Because we’re moving this way. The earth is rotating. Prabhupada: You are moving, but why you say sometimes this position and sometimes that position? Harikesa: Because the earth also moves like this. It’s going around the sun, and then every day it rotates once. Prabhupada: Hm? Harikesa: It rotates on an axis like this. So therefore the sun seems to go around, but actually it’s the earth that goes around. Prabhupada: Now, if you measure when this sun and when it comes meridian distance, so do you think the earth is moving so quickly? It is… According to their modern science, the earth is moving twenty-five thousand miles only throughout… No, within twenty-four hours. Harikesa: That’s around the sun. Prabhupada: Huh? Then is it possible… Jagadisa: Twenty-four-hour day, twenty-five thousand miles circumference. Prabhupada: So how earth has gone so quickly round that it is seen, the different position of the sun? This means sun is not fixed. Sun is moving. And in the Bhagavata it is said that it is moving at the rate of sixteen thousand miles per second. I think I have calculated that. Sixteen thousand miles. Hrdayananda: Prabhupada? Does that mean that the sun is going around the earth? Prabhupada: Hm? Hrdayananda: Is the sun going around the earth? Prabhupada: Sun is going around the whole planetary system. Tamala Krsna: The scientists think the whole planetary system is going around the sun. Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada, earth is also moving? Prabhupada: Hm? Bhavananda: Earth planet is also moving? Prabhupada: Along with all other stars. That you can see at night. Tamala Krsna: They are all moving around the polestar. Prabhupada: Yes. Hrdayananda: So that means that the more we learn material education, (we’re) just becoming more and more foolish. Prabhupada: Yes. Material education means mudha. This is also material education, the movement of the sun. But they are not perfect. VRNDAVAN, July 02, 1977, Bhu-mandala Diagram Discussion ‒ Prabhupāda: Then the sun… Above the sun there is moon. Yaśodā-nandana: Yes, and above the sun there is the moon. Share this:Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Related Previous post Karma, Reincarnation, and the Problem of Evil Next post Two Podcasts with People who Grew up in Krishna Cults 13 Comments click here: Pretty nice post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wished to say that I’ve truly enjoyed browsing your blog posts. In any case I will be subscribing to your rss feed and I hope you write again very soon! July 20, 2017 - 4:04 pm Reply Correction: Lot’s PC, cultural marxist brainwashing on the video. Jared Diamond is jew without any proper documentation to back up his anti-white ramblings. And the ancient aryans were white. They did not come from Middle-East. Where ever blacks go and are there is powerty and criminality in high numbers. There is plenty of science to back up racial IQ differences. Look up Jared Taylor. And see “EUROPA – The Last Battle” and “The Greatest Story Never Told”. American modern “social sciences” are completely polluted by marxist ideas, Frankfurt School and Critical theory. I’m not follower of any sect, and I maybe don’t agreee with each and everything Swami said, but I was researching how the movement was hijacked by Jew already in the late 70’s. That’s how I found this site. September 28, 2017 - 7:13 pm Reply Deny: When your mind is released from the dense delusions,you shall realise that how disgusting all that you have heard so far have bbeen.When your mind is fixed and unmoved and not confused by scriptural injunctions you shall attain Samadhi. November 10, 2017 - 5:33 pm Reply Nemi: I don’t see anything that’s been said that isn’t or hasn’t already happened. Prabhupad makes good points – it’s not his ideas. As he says, It’s all lusty desire. Laws or no laws. Humans are in a state of degradation and don’t have good leaders, – the solution is to enrich the self spiritually to become better humans and attain the ultimate destination after death and be free from the degradation, exploitation, of material nature…etc. No religion teaches how to do this, other than the Vedic Philosophy that Prabhupad presents. Otherwise it’s all material desires, for sex, meat, war, violence, religious conversions, looting, murder, plundering the earths natural resources, manufacturing garbage, creating a wasteland… and yet look at the people that are taking to Prabhupad. If they were drug addicts they’ve now found the best drug. Everyone turning to Krishna Consciousness has some affliction that they want resolved, if is to quench a spiritual thirst, desire to experience Krishna, resolve life issues spiritually, they get it all with KC. Funny how the important, meaningful, dialogues of Prabupad are not showcased here. That would be more beneficial to your readers, and leave them feeling motivated and spiritually energised. Prabhupad is so endearing to watch and listen to. He has a very warm grand fatherly nature. You can feel love and caring in his attitude and nature, so to stick a dialogue out of context here, when he is not alive to defend himself is quite coward of you, don’t you think? November 20, 2017 - 2:27 pm Reply ajrayoflight: You said no other religion teaches how to do this, other than Vedic Philosophy that Prabhupad presents. Well, Buddhism is a very old belief/philosophy/some say religion but I would say much of the things your are mentioning about “lusty desire” was addressed in the Buddhas teachings. I studied it for years. There is no absolute rule that you can’t believe in god. Many study Buddhism alongside having “religious beliefs”. I would say it is very phycological and addresses suffering more so of a phycological nature. Teacher or Spiritual Guru or just some interesting historical figure the Buddha had some interesting things to say. I would say I have gotten some peace of mind from this. I would invite anyone to check it out. January 1, 2019 - 12:02 am Reply Ala Paki: There are quotes taken out of context. The seemingly racist and homophobic tones exhibited by Sri Prabhupada were framed around discussions about present societal ills. Nothing to see here. December 28, 2017 - 2:36 am Reply Vichal: Hari Bol! Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada! I would like to ask you, if you are familiar with the science of the Soul? Are you familiar with reincarnation of the Soul? Are you familiar with Karma? Are you familiar with the Vedic timeperiods? Are you familiar with the symptoms of the Kali Yuga? About these quotes regarding Black people (some section of Indian people are also black), women, homosexuals: Can you not see in societies around the world today (2018) that there is truth in it? Truth may not be palatable, still it is the truth. If men and women do not follow the Vedic standard, they will become degraded, untrustful, deceitful, basically they will not be nice human-beings. A human-being, does NOT eat meat! Let’s start with that one. Then the next: A human being considers all living entities as his/her familiy. NOT only those who are related to him/her via their bodies. My dear Sir, know the philosophy first before only quoting those statements which hurts your material heart. Do you have a solution for world peace? All living entities on THIS PLANET living peacefully without hate. Do you have a solution? To come to that solution, the die-hard Truth must be spoken. Only then humans will listen, if you give them nice flattering remarks, then this non-civilized manner of living will continue. The entire planet no lives according to your wishes (bodily concept of life), is their honesty, peace, respect and love amongst the humans in 2018? Please think this over. And if you have any decency (which means you love humans AND animals AND you support only that way of life and government which allows peace amongst ALL LIVING ENTITIES) then come up which valid solutions for world peace. Thank you very much! Hare Krishna, Jaya Srila Prabhupada!!! January 8, 2018 - 1:55 pm Reply Vichal: Hari Bol! Another important comment: Yes it is true, that ISKCON today is NOT following the teachings all the way. There is no self-reliency, there is adjustment to democratic principles. Why: Otherwise they will be sabotaged and even killed by the atheists and impersonalists. And another comment: I am NOT a devotee. I am a sense gratifying demon just like you. I am a member of western society. And I conclude that everything Srila Prabhupada said is 100% correct. Hare Krishna! Jaya Srila Prabhupada!!! (says a demon) January 8, 2018 - 2:02 pm Reply Nick: I’ve known all this for a long time, ever since that 2004 book came out: The Hare Krishna Movement: The Postcharismatic Fate of a Religious Transplant. I never was initiated into the movement because of the sexism I found way back in the early 1980s, but I like the aesthetics of a puja ceremony and kirtan. I find it uplifting. I think most of us took ideas from yoga and because of the political climate in the 1970s when Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi were our examples of religious people that took some courageous stands for their time, merged with our fascination with mysticism and universalism. So we were trying to fashion a philosophy out of the best of both worlds, politics and religion. I still take this approach today. February 4, 2018 - 3:28 pm Reply Sebastiaan: Google Guru business, Solocana Dasa. Know about child abuse. Know about the fact that western leaders allow these abusers to walk free. And people like you vote for these leaders. So who is guilty? Yes, the public! Who can only moan but do nothing when it is time to fight. May 8, 2019 - 2:38 pm Reply Devin Reese: Vaishnavism is attractive, as Gita and Mahabhrata are built on it, and monotheism is simple to get into. Bhakti devotion is spiritually entrancing, entoxicating, but, the mroe you find out, the less good the Krishnas are. And the less I like them. Their narcissism is a great great Evil and sin in religion, a perversion of people’s good faith. Theyd be tolerant and accepting if they were for real, as Christ even. Whatever someone is like, however they look. No, they dont unite the Hindus, they devide and brainwash. That is evil, molding everything on your stamp. It is a sin of pride. A spiritual sin of “liking your version of spirituality” self love to the extreme. NOT spirituality. NOT TRUE religion. Theyw ould try to accept and unite all hindu as brethren if they were for God, in any form, including krishna and vishnu. But, it isnt the whole picture, and Hare Krishnas deny the follower true knowledge of all hinduism which is not spiritual and try and control you into one way of thinking, lviing, believing and looking. Its not true spirituality or religion its the worship of a cult guru and everything prabhupad says without fallibilitiy. They dont allow you have beards even though some fo their sampradaya gurus had them. And so did advaitacharya. The beard and hair are ancient signs of the human and spirituality in india. They also are your choice. They take that away. Thats why they are not spiritual at all. They deny you fromt he other forms of God. This is evil. To sell their book and propogate themselves, and in addition their gurus to live well. And veritably worshipped by their initiates. That is Evil. Thats as demonic as theyll say I am and they will NEVER refute this logic except by their insane non-logic. They do not love God or their disciples. They are committing evil by denying you freedom, true spirituality, and all the forms of God and your choice and spirituality, to be controlled for cattle for them. That is Evil. January 8, 2019 - 10:54 pm Reply Sebastiaan: The thing is, alot of people have not read Srila Prabhupada’s books or are enjoying life. The moment you get difficulty in life (like becoming homeless, losing family/friends and job), then you will question why this is happening and why to me? The founder-acarya’s mission was to uplift human society. This is done through honest endeavor and hard work (through self sufficient cow protecting farm communities). Everything what you see in ISKCON today, is NOT what the mission of the founder-acarya represents. And that is why people are commenting and even attacking the Vedic philosophy as explained by the Brahma-Madhva-Gauriya Vaisnava sampradaya acarya’s of which Srila Prabhupada is currently the last representative! Even during his times, you saw deviation from some of his so-called disciples! Now because of them, the whole mission is criticized. This is unfortunate. I myself am not a Hare Krishna, nor affiliated with ISKCON. That does not mean that I do not understand the explanation given about Hare Krishna Movement by its founder. What you have said, is from materialistic viewpoint dovetailed with experiences with the fake pseudo devotees. I met a few of them. I can tell that these are hard times. If you want to enjoy your senses and blame the founder, thats your Karma. You should follow the orders of the last acarya. Why go past him and look at the previous acarya’s beards? These kinds of statements proove the agenda’s people have. But everyone gets what ones deserves. Trillions of animals have been killed for sense gratification. The atheistic materialistic western “civilizations” are responsible for this and the bill will be presented in due time. January 9, 2019 - 1:51 pm Reply OneMind: A Vaishnava is the real friend for every living being. This is how we can recognize a Vaishnava. The Vaishnavas are very rare. And especially in this age and place, if one meets even one Vaishnava he should consider himself very fortunate. It is widely accepted by the learned scholars that Srila Prabhupada is a true Vaishnava, who is able to guide all spirit souls toward highest perfection of life. Srila Prabhupada, although physically departed about 40 years ago, is still present in this world as a spiritual guide through his unmodified books. All the knowledge how to approach the Absolute Truth is given by Srila Prabhupada in his books. This knowledge can be understood only by the mercy of Spiritual Master, who is no other than Srila Prabhupada. January 15, 2019 - 3:26 pm Reply Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Name * Email * Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.